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From a transatlantic perspective...:
1. At first sight the election is a battle between the oooooold git and the suave young black guy. But is it really about the candidates only or do other things come into play?
2. Are the american people ready for a black president? Are they more ready for an old conservative git with a woman as his running mate? Do they even care anymore?
3. Are party politics hurting one of the candidates or both? (e.g. I remember hearing even ooold conservative guys like DB saying that he'll go democrat (in the vote) strictly because of the UIGEA-bs)
That being said, I'm too unfamiliar with the recent and current party politics and programs of either party to really make an informed decision here...but my gut tells me: Obama would be the "logical" choice for a LOT of people...if that's going to be enough in the end...we'll find out soon enough...
I will be voting against the party of Bush, the UIGEA, and their desire to force me to live by their skewed morality.
I will be voting for the Democratic candidate because I want more freedom, not less.
LOL. What is the o/u on the number of comments that you get on this post?
I blogged about this pretty extensively today.
I think it boils down to this: A former politically independent conservative has decided to abandon years of long held beliefs and kowtow to the elite power brokers in his party in order to make one last ego-driven stab at higher office, no matter how many reversals of his ideals he has to make to win it.
He's running against a rather inexperienced charismatic person who is somewhat vague in some of his plans, but seems a fundamentally decent individual.
It's too soon to tell who is going to win, but either way, the Democrats are going to expand their advantages in the U.S. House and Senate by sizable amounts.
To answer ingoal's comment, I think intra-party politics are going to hurt McCain more than Obama, because McCain really was not the preferred choice of the party's base, and has had to do a lot since to pander to that base.
That said, as much as the Clintons said they're going to support Obama, their current silence is notable, and undoubtedly, racism is going to rear its ugly head before all is said and done.
Personally, I'd like to see Palin as president and Obama as VP.
o/u is about 45 Mitch.
What makes this country great are the checks and balances in its Government. Bill Clinton had a nice 8 years because there was a Republican congress and the checks and balances helped to even things out and made for a nice two terms.
If Obama gets elected with a Democratic congress, the checks and balances will be gone and the power will lie in the hands of one party which, IMHO, will spell disaster. That party will be able to push through a very socialist agenda which will bring our great country down to the level of many lesser countries.
Just my thoughts on this.
Obama is too conservative for my taste, but since he's the nearest approximation of a liberal with any chance to win, GL Barack. I'll be voting McKinney.
McCain wins.
A democratic president with a democratic house and senate will be the end. In four years these liberals will undo 200 years of what has made this country great.
I still don't know why everyone calls the democratic candidate black or African American? He's of mixed race, or European-African American.
On and listen to the angry Mondo. He's never been wrong a day in his life.
Politics is masturbation. This is just my effort to help the Over.
OK, one more political comment to help the over Jordan-style.
Don, why does it matter so much to you whether Obama is called black or not? How black would be black enough? Do you have a color wheel of ethnic inclusion we could use? Where do we draw the line? Ice Cube (lighter than the average brother by his own admission)? Perhaps something in a Spike Lee or Wesley Snipes. What point is being made here?
In any event, I am tired of people referring to Sarah Palin as a 'women'. Like most hot dogs, she is mainly lips and ass.
Srsly, Palin's father was male and her mother was female, so she's actually of mixed gender.
Cant we just get back to talking about making money on sit and gos that pay like $2 to the winner? Theres more unintentional comedy in those posts than these political things could ever have.
Vive Le Jordan - i take the over.
Had a great discussion with some of my ultra right wing Canadian friends yesterday.
Here's one thought from one of them for you to chew over:
"Its plainly obvious he is very liberal, which means more government programs to settle every injustice, real or perceived. This requires more regulation, massive government hires and cost increases, particularly in the area of healthcare, which Obama has not said how he will pay for. But what is the clincher for me is his background narrative of being, in effect, a career politician who owes his ascendancy to the support of first, the Chicago left wing political machine and, later the move on.org (the real money behind his fundraising which defeated Hilary Clinton) left wing crowd of the Democrat party. He is a creature of this environment (and beholden to it, that is why you see so many changes in his positions as he starts out centrist and has to "clarify" in order to appease the Left which supported him over Hilary). It is a worldview where big government rules the day and is the answer to all problems, which as we know, is false and dangerous to everyone in the economy except those directly benefiting from the government program. There are many injustices, as there always will be, but individual initiative must be the way to solve them with the aid of government as the last resort. There are already enough programs.
McCain is on the record as a guy who will cut spending, as evidenced by his fight in the Senate to end the "earmarks" process which are spending bills designed to benefit specific interest groups. He disagreed with the Bush tax cuts initially because the cuts were not linked with proportionate cuts in spending. He says now that he will continue those cuts (Obama will reverse them ) because he will, if elected, renew his fight to cut spending. He is also far more likely to exercise the Presidential veto power to kill spending bills (this is one of a number of areas in which George Bush failed miserably, he never saw a bill he didn't like). A man with the background and instincts of Obama is highly predisposed to not use the veto, especially when the Democrats control both the House and the Senate. We saw how dangerous this was with the Republicans controlling all three. One could only imagine the heights spending would reach (with no way to pay for this other than to increase taxes again and again) under a Democrat scenario. If Obama wins , this could get ugly rather quickly."
I like Fuel's insightful comments. All I know is that they should allow the Libertarian Party to participate in the debates. Watching Wayne Allen Root bash everyone would be hilarious.
I agree with Wolverine Fan and Don. When 1 party controls the legislative and executive branch or goodness forbid all three branches of government, there is no telling how much damage will be done. Some times the government getting nothing done is a good thing, especially if they consider their job to be nothing but spending.
Don't think my vote will swing election so will not register.
Benefit is it has been 2 years since last jury duty summons which is a new record for me during my California residency.
2000 - during time of peace and prosperity Republicans defeated a sitting VP. (Mainly due to Don, Nader and the Palm Beach voters who did not vote as intended on ballot).
2004 - During time of war and slumping economy Republicans still won.
2008 - Obama wins popular vote, McCain wins Electoral vote. Hollywood and angry left rants for 4 more years.
Where is the commentary? Don't you fawking Americans care?
Obama is going to win.
The Country is Ready for a CHANGE.
Bush and His Cronies have run roughshod over this country for the last 8 years. Enough is enough McCain is just another Bush.
Price of one barrel of oil in 1999 (the last year a Democrat was in the White House) = $16.00.
Price of one barrel of oil in July 2008 set a new record of $147.25.
And yet, there are some that want four more years of this type of "leadership"? Hard to believe.
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